Is there a world map?

john3voltas · Post by **john3voltas** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:26 pm

Greetings.
Coming from "Flightgear" (as said in my introduction) I guess it is normal that I try to learn YFS while comparing it to FG.
One thing that still puzzles me is the apparent lack of a worldmap (that is, a world scenery).
How can I fly from airport A to airport B in YFS? I can't? If so, does someone know if a worlmap is in the works?
I remember that one of the things that 1st captured my attention in flight sims was the ability to fly anywhere in the world.
I also understand that YFS is developed by a single programmer and that maybe YFS's targets are a bit different from other sims.
I'm just asking because I can't seem to understand how a virtual airline company would operate since it (apparently) cannot make a flight from spot A to spot B.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers

DavideV · Post by **DavideV** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:57 pm

No, there isn't any. Scenery creation is up to users and the bigger the map, the bigger the deal! There are big maps that you can fly in 3 hours with a Cessna, like the new Hawaii...

Post by **Gunny** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:06 pm

Well there has been a number of world maps attempted in ys but none have come to completion due to the impracticality of it.Lag is the biggest culprit of the size and detail of maps here.The bigger the map the more lag interfering with flight performance of aircraft so we have tried to keep map size to a manageable size to balance size detail and lag.
Myself and VNAF are attempting to create maps to give a good overall sampling of scenery's to give a better feel of airline coverage from all areas of the world.But to this date flying the equator is just not

practical.

john3voltas · Post by **john3voltas** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:38 pm

DavideV wrote:No, there isn't any. Scenery creation is up to users and the bigger the map, the bigger the deal!

Bummer

There are big maps that you can fly in 3 hours with a Cessna, like the new Hawaii...

New Hawaii? Meaning a different Hawaii from the one that comes bundled with YFS?

Gunny wrote:Well there has been a number of world maps attempted in ys but none have come to completion due to the impracticality of it.Lag is the biggest culprit of the size and detail of maps here.The bigger the map the more lag interfering with flight performance of aircraft so we have tried to keep map size to a manageable size to balance size detail and lag.

Strange. As said, I'm not a programmer but I know the basic fundamentals of programming.
I can't see the reason for a world map to be any "heavier" than the biggest map bundled with YFS. At least in single player mode.
Thinking loud, a map shouldn't be fully loaded into RAM. There's no point in doing so, since the player can't be everywhere at a given time.
FG, for instance, uses such an approach and I'm sure most games out there (not only sims) do just the same...
Besides, I wasn't looking for anything fancy.
I just wanted to have several airports in the same map, that's all

Cheers

Post by **Gunny** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:14 pm

Yes there are 2 no make that 3 Hawaii scenery's separate from the game ranging from moderate high detail Griffin to moderate PNMV and the 171st mod created for military type flying on the servers.actually all can be used as server scenery.Its just that military flying requires a bit less detail to enable military power reserves to be used such as afterburners and weapons with sudden accelerations involved and the 171st server scenery seems to have achieved that balance until large scale operations are used.
And since I have no knowledge of programing what so ever I would assume your assumptions are correct in that regard.
All the maps I mentioned are available here as downloads and many more half the fun is the hunting tally-ho.

VNAF ONE · Post by **VNAF ONE** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:20 pm

Ya this will hopefully come to some of your expectations. I myself like long distance military flights and exercises so I like to make my maps somewhat sizeable. My latest two releases are just big enough to where you can make a good 20 minute flight in an airliner out of these. The one I'm working on now will be even bigger than these two. Project Atlas is explained in the topic link below. There are a lot of maps out there that are large enough to make a good flight from one place to another. As far as real sceneries go, I'm not sure how many people have focused on the real places. I am in progress of making Southeast Virginia atm as one of my projects.

http://ysfhq.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=833

Crazypilot · Post by **Crazypilot** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:24 pm

Here is a solution take a picture of the world make an exact copy of that picture of the map then add all the major airports in the world and atleast one in every country only airports should be detailed and the area close to it .

Post by **Welshy** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:38 pm

If you have the time go ahead but most people on here have School work or Jobs (or both like me

)

Nick

Post by **Doomsday** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:34 pm

Crazypilot wrote:Here is a solution take a picture of the world make an exact copy of that picture of the map then add all the major airports in the world and atleast one in every country only airports should be detailed and the area close to it .

If you actually tried to make a map, its not that easy as it sounds.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:12 pm

Look at project ATLAS, and you'll see that the world is actually quite a big place.

Crazypilot · Post by **Crazypilot** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:43 pm

The world would be a big place but use a super fast plane and blah blah.(CASE SOLVED LOCK THIS PLEASE)

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:16 am

like here?

http://forum.ysfhq.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=830

Crazypilot · Post by **Crazypilot** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:27 am

Ok maybe thats wee little bit too fast.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:37 am

2065 for you.

MrFunnybone · Post by **MrFunnybone** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:36 pm

sorry to revive an old topic but there is a "world map" in the KZS pack. i don't think its to scale but it seems quite big.

Flake · Post by **Flake** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:44 am

TL:DR this thread, time is money, so if it's been said, ignore this but:

A true 1:1 ratio world map is just way to big, and the current scenery drawing mechanism of YSFlight does not support it. The world shakes, is drawn incorrectly, and crashes, as were the words of H3csc whom tried this in the past.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:49 am

Indeed, H3csc did attempt a world map - infact I've still got the .fld file on my computer. Unfortunatly as Flake said, it's very laggy and crashes frequently.

Crazypilot · Post by **Crazypilot** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:37 am

Sorry for revival but make a world map but not 1:1 scale maybe quarter the size?

Post by **waspe414** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:18 pm

h3csc did try a 1:14 scale world, but the workload was too large and it was never finished.

Post by **Midnight Rambler** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:49 am

john3voltas wrote: ...

Besides, I wasn't looking for anything fancy.
I just wanted to have several airports in the same map, that's all
Cheers

Doesn't the Megadodo map/s do this? Serveral maps in the same map... If that makes sense?

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