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[EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:22 am
by Strats
Something hit me today while on a the Civilian Aviation server. "Why not have a program in the place of an ATC manual but more functional?" OYS seems incredibly capable as a feature extension platform (IRC anyone?) There was one thing missing while I did ATC in Hawaii, a map and a radar overlay on said map in a separate window. Controlling from the ground can be tricky for anyone who does not know the airspace or positions of the planes around them (reminds me of TCAS, lol.) If there is a way to produce or port a program that is similar to the FS9 (FS2004) community (or VATSIM if you are into that) in regards to ATC, that would be cool and useful to delegate airspace and planes alike.

Some possible suggestions for implementation:
  • - A "callsign" command addition to allow a pilot/user to set his "callsign." This would register with the "External ATC Program" (yet uses YSFlight as a bridge as OYS appears to do) and give the "controller" a position in accordance to the map.

    - A "dedicated port" solely for ATC communications with the "program" to YSFlight via OYS or via an alternative method.

    - Localizers and VOR's will be preset into the "program" via a database.

    - Implement the "weather" command from OYS into the "program" to receive current server weather from OYS. This could be done by intercepting the command from a user to the server. The server would then send that through the "dedicated port" to the "program."

    - Also looking to have an external YFS player. This does exist but seems to be closed-off from YS yet available in "screen-saver" form. Seeing that ported to an external program appears to be minimal.
Hope someone with programming skills takes this challenge on! Hawaii is the main map in servers it seems so that could possibly work well for the future. Thanks!

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:25 am
by Varren

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:52 am
by Strats
Alright, Varren. Prepare your eyes:

That protocol is at least four years old. OYS is recent and more comparable with YSFlight than anything I have seen. You could also make the "program" play with those old protocols as well as following whatever OYS uses. It would also be more workable using C++ or .NET... not python. Eases the new users experiences. I did not rule out use usage of such a program but you could update that so it could be easier to use. The download link (according to Kujo) is broken... try it before you knock it. The idea is cool but needs work. Also if anyone has any suggestions for external programs, post here!

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:54 am
by Flake
TBH Netcode hasn't changed that much - just need to change the version number in the code and update a few more things.

A working clientside radar/atc system is on my "in the future" list. One day...

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:59 am
by u2fly
YS & VATSIM
viewtopic.php?t=8250
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YS & IRC
viewtopic.php?f=217&t=8290#p94124
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YS & multisound engine
viewtopic.php?t=8266

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:28 pm
by Strats
Alright. One program is left untapped: the external YSF viewer to view YFS replays outside of YS. A better editor would be better than an external player but you would have to be able to see what you are editing. Also, a port of FS Navigator would be cool to see on YS. That is basically an interactive map. Not needed however. I do appreciate that your links are relevant and most importantly, they work! Appreciate the feedback as well.

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:53 pm
by Barr
There is the navigation planner.

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:45 pm
by Strats
BARRACUZ wrote:There is the navigation planner.
Link?

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:00 pm
by Barr
Strats wrote:
BARRACUZ wrote:There is the navigation planner.
Link?
Find it yourself bud...


And here it is
viewtopic.php?t=7115

Download the attached zip.

Re: [EXTERNAL APPLICATION SUGGESTIONS] - YSATC and YSPlayer

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:49 am
by u2fly
Prototype GUI for YSRADAR
Image
Topic - viewtopic.php?f=236&t=8321
Lets code this.