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we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:37 am
by Hyperactive_sloth
I feel like this community is falling apart. I miss the time we had pre-announced ATC sessions and a load of very active va's.
We should get this back off the ground because right now, joining servers, and flying around alone or doing a bit of dogfighting with a random person is starting to get boring. we should get together more and get this community back to it'sformer glory.
I'm writing this because in the past week, Nath, DT, Jetskit and many more have decided to quit YSFHQ, and they were the people i first spoke to on ysfhq TS and who introduced me to ys.
I just dont want the community to die.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:54 am
by Copperhead
We had a revolution of change like what you'er saying a few months back, and I didn't see that much change on servers... I kinda gave up on that.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:01 am
by Hyperactive_sloth
it's sad but i just cant give up on this community myself. I've made friends, and i got a lot better flying. I want to be able to finally join my first airshow but if this entire community falls apart all will have been for nothing. Idk.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:24 am
by VNAF ONE
I'll tell you one thing that has always managed to stay strong, the aerobatics community. So in that regard, you have little to worry about.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:41 am
by Gunny
As to the server community,We have no control or influence in that regard.we can set guide lines but we have no authority over the enforcement of those guide lines.Each server is the sole property of the administrator of each server.And they are autonomous from YSFHQ.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:11 pm
by Midnight Rambler
When people say they leave, they often don't go away. Nightraven still hangs around even though he pretends he doesn't. The forum active membership isn't an accurate measurement of people playing YS. I doubt half the people who visit here a each week will get online/use YS in said week.

As for servers; we were averaging 600 flight hours two months ago. Last month was 195hr, this month 62hr (CP has 40hr). YS pilot numbers always fluctuate, but this lack of enthusiasm in anything (Civ/military/aerobatics/online) is a touch boring. If people are bored, they don't fly online. People not online = others won't get online.

Therefore there is a general haze of boredom that spreads like an infectious bacteria. This accounts for inactivity or spontaneous "I'm leaving LOL J/K" topics sprouting up.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:18 pm
by Mobiyus
Although it's true the community is quite small, it is not dead yet, and no one is doing things for nothing. From what I've seen the core member base does mobilize for most major events, which is quite nice.

As for solutions: NOOB RETENTION. that's the key. There's a constant flow of noobs coming to ys but rare are those who stick around. We should pet our server noobs like there's no tomorrow.

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''large-scale battles are needed to create a sense of us-vs-them or good-vs-evil''
''The social experience of a game can also be increased when developers focus on the player avatars, social cooperation, and personal communication.''
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source:themittani.com

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:17 pm
by flyingfisch
I would join servers if YS didn't crash randomly for me... only happens on servers. (I posted about it months ago, kinda just given up on it.)

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:03 pm
by Neocon
When you don't have an addon installed that someone on a server is using, it creates errors in YSF. It says something is wrong with a .dat file, but it usually isn't the .dat file but the program itself having the error. Usually if you click "OK" fast enough it goes away, but sometimes it crashes the whole game.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:09 pm
by Copperhead
Funny how I've never had an error crash my YS on a server, just my aircraft. I wonder if my using of the 2011 version has anything to do with it?

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:16 pm
by Neocon
It could. I think the problem started with the 2013 version, so I've been hoping for a new release with the problem fixed. I didn't realize you could use the older version on a new server.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:53 pm
by Barr
All server use the 2011 version. Also like I said in a recent post we need a dedicated wiki regarding installation of the program, the add-ons, and general trouble shooting like fixing the initial .dat loading error that pops up when an add-on isn't installed properly.

And maybe have a combat Friday, atc saturday, and air race Sunday. Or maybe have a dedicated Saturday where we all join just one server. Sometimes there might be 7 diffremt people online but on diffrent servers. One or two people on a server isn't as fun as 7 or 10 flying around and creating traffic.

Re: we need change

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:44 pm
by Gunny
We have to stop dwelling and bitching on the aspects of things we can not control.We have no control over Soji's updates we have no control over servers or how they are run or add on's they have.So its time to take stock of what YSFHQ dos have the ability to control.At this point it is precious little in my opinion.So put on your thinking caps and find a way we can update things here.One idea I have is to not chop up YSFHQ into individual kingdoms and consolidate as one site.Let the servers dictate how many military,Civilian or aerobatics are active.Just a suggestion that can be discussed at the meeting Sunday.We all need to concentrate on the site and not just our own parts of it if we are to continue.

Re: we need change

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:13 am
by Strats
Patrick31337 wrote:When you don't have an addon installed that someone on a server is using, it creates errors in YSF. It says something is wrong with a .dat file, but it usually isn't the .dat file but the program itself having the error. Usually if you click "OK" fast enough it goes away, but sometimes it crashes the whole game.
I have the exact same issue.
Copperhead wrote:Funny how I've never had an error crash my YS on a server, just my aircraft. I wonder if my using of the 2011 version has anything to do with it?
2015 has the same issue as well.

Re: we need change

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:19 am
by Copperhead
I use 2015 now, because ya know, reasons... and now I have the error crashing problem. I miss 2011...