Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

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Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by KDFire » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:08 pm

I posted a picture of this thing last month or so, but then nothing else happened with it until recently.

This demo is going to be done by SantiXgoIV, who some of us know as the new exec commander of TF51. And let's just say that this isn't your normal F-16C demo.
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by tigershark » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:22 pm

:lol: just :lol: you guys need to slow thing down more and relax more and think about what you down. :lol: very fast and very normal. look like rise and shine display has move on to another noob.

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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by KDFire » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:27 pm

SantiX never has been known for legit planning demos :lol:
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by Copperhead » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:49 pm

You can't even get the designation right? That's a Mitsubishi F-2...
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by KDFire » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:25 pm

Copperhead wrote:You can't even get the designation right? That's a Mitsubishi F-2...
We know this. SantiX labelled it as an F-16 anyway.
(Besides, the F-16 and F-2 are very much aside from some minor improvements.)

PS: am I the only one who's having quoting problems? I hit the quote button and all it does is send me to the bottom of the page.
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by Welshy » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:31 am

F-2 isn't a minor change, it's a whole new wing and other things
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by VintiXgoIV » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:42 am

^
It really makes a difference in YS, where you can barely tell the difference.

And Zak,
This video was recorded by jdog during one of my first showcases of it, when the Blood Falcon's demo routine was still in early development. It's been refined a good bit since this...but you'll have to wait until an upcoming airshow to see where it's really gone ;)
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by Copperhead » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:48 am

"Minor improvements" Image
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by VintiXgoIV » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:54 am

Can this not become a debate on whether it's an F-16 or F-2...?

If you care THAT much, I can rename it. Sheesh.
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by Bombcat » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:55 am

Alright, yes, the differences between the F-16C and F-2 are significant, but the error could have been pointed out with considerably more grace. The F-2 is an evolutionary development of the Falcon line, which is close enough for most.

In any case, good luck with the display. My eye is not trained enough to judge YS airshow flying, but it's good to see folks taking an interest.
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by Neocon » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:08 am

I had no idea that there was that much of a difference. Then again, I have never had much interest in aviation. ;)

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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by VNAF ONE » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:16 am

VintiXgoIV, person's whose name I cannot even begin to pronounce, I do think you would put on a good show, but there's a few considerations I'd have if you were signing up for one of my events. You seem to like flying fast (saw the indicated at over 530kts) and close to the show line. Typically, we don't usually have a lot of flying over the crowd as it is generally not something we aim to have at air shows. I'd just basically recommend slowing the passes down a bit. From the ground, all you see is a really fast jet going back and forth, which isn't all that entertaining from the perspective of someone just watching.

Anyways, I like it because it's unique and different. Best of luck and hope to see you at an air show soon!
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by VintiXgoIV » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:22 am

Like I said...I aim to not do those things.
Thing about the Blood Falcon is that its dat file was, for some reason, modified to give it the engine thrust of an F119...which I never understood, but that's why I now try to keep the AFTB off.

And for those of you who think this is going to be another F-2/F-16/whatever demo in the field, THINK AGAIN.
I took it out a few minutes ago and did a few crazy things with it (which are probably going to end up in the final routine) just to prove that. If you want to see the replay of it, take it.

https://www.mediafire.com/?epz4puuh6x0p7qx

I know it seems unprofessional in this replay, but that was simply because I couldn't bother to do things very properly outside of practice.
(And you'll need the Cherokee Valley map to view this, just fyi.)
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by warping jdog » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:14 am

Yeah wait till i upload the second part on youtube!
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by KDFire » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:54 pm

^That. You people haven't seen anything of what the BF does yet.
The first bit ended when the next song started, which is where SantiX breaks out the wild stuff :lol:
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by warping jdog » Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:34 am

You feed my machine guns, so as I would say, "I AM GONNA EAT YOU!"

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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by tigershark » Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:57 am

i watch the video and still :lol:
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i hope this turns out a alright display because it look like Md5ray been tell him some stupid flight lessons.
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by VintiXgoIV » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:11 am

i hope this turns out a alright display because it look like Md5ray been tell him some stupid flight lessons.
...HAHAHAHAHA, no.
Ray had nothing to do with the development of this demo. Me and my friend devised it.

That was partially-free-flying I was doing as a sort of introduction for jdog. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by Alpha Star » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:11 am

tigershark wrote:i watch the video and still :lol:
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i hope this turns out a alright display because it look like Md5ray been tell him some stupid flight lessons.
:lol:
There's no need to offend people performances because of their style of flying being different than yours. I think this will be an interesting display and bring variety to the show line-up, using ysflights lack of realism may be good.

Just a small tip for you, dont make it too serious, but still make it a good display, this could be a good laugh and could be quite interesting! Good Luck!
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Re: Introducing the Red Saints' Blood Falcon

Post by tigershark » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:06 pm

VintiXgoIV wrote:
i hope this turns out a alright display because it look like Md5ray been tell him some stupid flight lessons.
...HAHAHAHAHA, no.
Ray had nothing to do with the development of this demo. Me and my friend devised it.

That was partially-free-flying I was doing as a sort of introduction for jdog. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

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