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new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by Strik3agle98 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:11 pm

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as I know
it will come with a new j-20 for navy
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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by Honey Badger » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:18 pm

Well...it's big. Looks cool, too. Is this an actual design or someone's idea of how it should look?
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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by red baron » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:38 pm

That's pretty cool, it looks like a practical design too.
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Post by iqmal_97 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:43 pm

A bit too stretched out design in my opinion.

But hey, anythings possible.
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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by redcell » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:32 pm

Whoa... that's a kickass concept.

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Post by halberdier25 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:29 pm

Source?

This goes against my entire understanding of the Chinese carrier projects.

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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by VNAF ONE » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:39 pm

Looks too cramped for space in my opinion. Parallel runways with almost no room on the sides to even move around would pose problems in my opinion. The supercarrier has at least a little room for movement with the catapults and runway operating at the same time. With this they won't be able to unless they close one or another down.
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Post by halberdier25 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:56 pm

VNAF ONE wrote:Looks too cramped for space in my opinion. Parallel runways with almost no room on the sides to even move around would pose problems in my opinion. The supercarrier has at least a little room for movement with the catapults and runway operating at the same time. With this they won't be able to unless they close one or another down.
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Post by halberdier25 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:05 pm

Yeah. It went under sea-trials last month.

The bigger issue is that they bought a handful of landing systems for carriers from the Russians, and have expressed interest in a natively-constructed CATOBAR carriers. We'll see. Regardless, they have (and won't have) anything like the first photo.

Think about it this way: they always critique us for having gigantic carriers that are so damn vulnerable (in war games, the Dutch have sunk our carriers). Think of them with that kind of carrier.

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Post by Welshy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:25 pm

Or you used to rely on our Sea Harriers from our CVS's to protect your supercarriers :P
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Post by halberdier25 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:34 pm

Not... really...

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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by Animal » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:57 pm

This is the same country that stole video from Top Gun to try to demonstrate the J-20 to the world
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Post by Panzerfire » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:07 pm

Actually, they used that footage to report on an exercise involving the J-10 fighters. Not the J-20.

But yeah you've made a good point.

I've seen these pictures before of this alledged future aircraft carrier for the PLAN in the Project Reality forums and it was said there that this was nothing more than a 3-D model from a 3-D artist who made this thing for either his portofolio or simply out of hobby. It is NOT an actual aircraft carrier project. (Or perhaps that is what "they" want us to think :lol: )

Anyway, what's almost for certain is that the PLA is going to build at least 2 more aircraft carriers of the Admiral Kuznetsov class (Well... at the very least a Chinese version of the Kuznetsov). After those there's some speculation that China could develope a bigger indigenous aircraft carrier based upon the blueprints of the Ulyanovsk supercarrier class which the soviets/russians never got to finish.

Time will tell how the chinese will develope their future aircraft carrier fleets.


One thing is for sure... China's neighbours will be getting very nervous in upcoming years.

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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by soulchain247 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:39 am

Its definately cool looking, but its flawed and not very efficient. for example, on the last picture, the blue plane's wings are overlapping the other planes. and i could really see that causing problems in the future
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Post by halberdier25 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:56 am

The A-50's wings are probably pretty high off the deck. No reason for them to not let it go over those Sukhois.

If I may ask, how is that an example of inefficiency?

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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by Phoenix » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:06 am

Not really, but it is using the Su-47...

...Not a production fighter.

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Post by halberdier25 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:02 pm

And that carrier clearly is nowhere near construction.

Jesus Christ, kids. Use your fucking noodles.

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It is an artist's rendering of a future Chinese blue-water carrier with future Chinese tech onboard. It took me exactly three neurons to figure that out, and I'm appalled that you kids are even throwing the slightest bit of thought into this thing's realism. As has already been stated, not only is it NOT FUCKING REAL, but it's also FUCKING PROPAGANDA. I'd prescribe something for your cranial-rectal inversion, but I'm afraid you'd have no method of administering it through your thick skull and pasty skin.

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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by Phoenix » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:39 pm

I used the sukhoi to point another flaw in the realism of it.

If this is not a new diagram evidently and thus can be ignored for that and many other reasons.

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Post by halberdier25 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:43 pm

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Re: new chinese aircraft carrier!

Post by [email protected] » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:47 pm

Looks Nice.
But i ASK me, are that berkut-firkin Planes on the Carrier?
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