What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Aviation news and discussion for anything aviation related.
Grigor
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 201
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:57 am
Favorite Aircraft: Ball-Bartoe Jetwing
OS: Windows XP
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 119 times

What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Grigor » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:17 am

I am, and have always been, a fan of the unusual. I get a real kick out of stumbling upon images of planes that I'd never seen, never heard of before. Those what-ifs, the concept drawings, the prototypes and mock-ups of planes that didn't quite make the big time. I hope this topic provides some thrills, or at the least, a raised eyebrow. I'll try to put new ones up on a regular basis.

I'll just kick off with a random Soviet entry from the 1980's that I'd not heard of 'til last week:
Image
...an almost WW2 looking, ugly thing... here's the Wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-102

Discuss.

User avatar
iqmal_97
Senior Veteran
Senior Veteran
Posts: 1767
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 am
Favorite Aircraft: Sukhoi Su-30MKM
Location: Somewhere in Asia
OS: Windows 10
Has thanked: 778 times
Been thanked: 192 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by iqmal_97 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:00 am

Kinda looks like the illegitimate child of a Su-25 Frogfoot and an Il-2 Sturmovik.
Image
[N007HA]Nynaiqmal_97 <= My usual online callsign
Mein Imgur gallery. Feel free to use any of my screenshots (Crediting me is optional, but greatly appreciated)

User avatar
Honey Badger
57th Polyvalent Sq
57th Polyvalent Sq
Posts: 1843
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:17 pm
Favorite Aircraft: Anything that gets off the ground
Location: From Louisiana, stationed in Alabama
Has thanked: 226 times
Been thanked: 69 times

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Honey Badger » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:45 am

You got WW2 and ugly right. PU! The real question is how it handles itself. If it can't then you must ask whether or not in can blend, for that determines it's next stop....
USAF Computer Systems Programmer (3D0X4)
"Powerpoint Ranger"

User avatar
Crazypilot
Honorary Contributor
Honorary Contributor
Posts: 2578
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:22 pm
Favorite Aircraft: F-16C
Location: Pakistan
Has thanked: 192 times
Been thanked: 92 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Crazypilot » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:00 pm

Frankenstein's plane.
Boneless Pizza

User avatar
iqmal_97
Senior Veteran
Senior Veteran
Posts: 1767
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 am
Favorite Aircraft: Sukhoi Su-30MKM
Location: Somewhere in Asia
OS: Windows 10
Has thanked: 778 times
Been thanked: 192 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by iqmal_97 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:03 pm

If strange aircraft designs you are looking for, then Luft 46 will definitely not disappoint you. One of my most favourite bombers on the website was the Arado Ar E.555 series.
Image

Imagine if it became a reality.
Image

And if that wasn't enough, take a look at the alternate designs....
Image
Image
Image
[N007HA]Nynaiqmal_97 <= My usual online callsign
Mein Imgur gallery. Feel free to use any of my screenshots (Crediting me is optional, but greatly appreciated)

User avatar
Crazypilot
Honorary Contributor
Honorary Contributor
Posts: 2578
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:22 pm
Favorite Aircraft: F-16C
Location: Pakistan
Has thanked: 192 times
Been thanked: 92 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Crazypilot » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:09 pm

That last one actually looks cool. I think it would have made a pretty good bomber if you'd make it really fast.
Boneless Pizza

User avatar
iqmal_97
Senior Veteran
Senior Veteran
Posts: 1767
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 am
Favorite Aircraft: Sukhoi Su-30MKM
Location: Somewhere in Asia
OS: Windows 10
Has thanked: 778 times
Been thanked: 192 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by iqmal_97 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:10 pm

Crazypilot wrote:That last one actually looks cool. I think it would have made a pretty good bomber if you'd make it really fast.
Yeah, and it'd be a nightmare to intercept it with a prop fighter like the P-51 Mustang or the Supermarine Spitfire. Unless of course, the P-80s and F-86 Sabres were already in production at that time..
Image
[N007HA]Nynaiqmal_97 <= My usual online callsign
Mein Imgur gallery. Feel free to use any of my screenshots (Crediting me is optional, but greatly appreciated)

User avatar
Crazypilot
Honorary Contributor
Honorary Contributor
Posts: 2578
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:22 pm
Favorite Aircraft: F-16C
Location: Pakistan
Has thanked: 192 times
Been thanked: 92 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Crazypilot » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:04 pm

iqmal_97 wrote:
Crazypilot wrote:That last one actually looks cool. I think it would have made a pretty good bomber if you'd make it really fast.
Yeah, and it'd be a nightmare to intercept it with a prop fighter like the P-51 Mustang or the Supermarine Spitfire. Unless of course, the P-80s and F-86 Sabres were already in production at that time..
As far as I know, neither of those were fighting in the war. The Germans came up with some pretty radical designs when they were desperate, who knows what they could have achieved if they actually put those crazy ideas into action?

Found one, a Northrop Tacit Blue. Made for testing stealth or something.
Image
Boneless Pizza

User avatar
Honey Badger
57th Polyvalent Sq
57th Polyvalent Sq
Posts: 1843
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:17 pm
Favorite Aircraft: Anything that gets off the ground
Location: From Louisiana, stationed in Alabama
Has thanked: 226 times
Been thanked: 69 times

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Honey Badger » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:07 pm

Yup. Something like that had potential to turn around WW2 in favor of the Germans. I honestly don't want imagine Europe with Hitler in command. Thank goodness for the RAF...

Also, the Blue looks sorta like an F-117 except all bubbly...and stupid...
USAF Computer Systems Programmer (3D0X4)
"Powerpoint Ranger"

User avatar
decaff_42
Staff
Staff
Posts: 3557
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:23 pm
Favorite Aircraft: SR-71 Blackbird
Location: Eastern United States
OS: Mac OSX
Has thanked: 622 times
Been thanked: 1351 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by decaff_42 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:01 pm

Crazypilot wrote: Found one, a Northrop Tacit Blue. Made for testing stealth or something.
Image
That was the technology demonstrator for the B-2 program. It was a step up from the Have Blue, or technology demonstrator for the F-117, as it wast supposed to be stealthy with smooth surfaces. The Have Blue and Tacit Blue differences were only due to computer advancements. The F-117 could only have around 200 surfaces due to the amount of computations for radar cross section return. The tacit Blue computers could handle more complex shapes.

I litterally just listened to a lecture from a USAF test pilot who was heavily involved with both technology demonstrators.


I also very much like the XB-70 in the background.

Where was that picture taken! looks like an awesome museum to go to.
Check out my website YSDecaff for all my tutorials and addon releases.
Visit by Bitbucket page for Python codes: https://bitbucket.org/decaff42/

Server Flight Log
Addon Database

User avatar
Crazypilot
Honorary Contributor
Honorary Contributor
Posts: 2578
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:22 pm
Favorite Aircraft: F-16C
Location: Pakistan
Has thanked: 192 times
Been thanked: 92 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Crazypilot » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:15 pm

I don't really know...I just remembered this plane and used google images. Obviously, it's some museum in America...I don't really know more than that.
Boneless Pizza

User avatar
iqmal_97
Senior Veteran
Senior Veteran
Posts: 1767
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 am
Favorite Aircraft: Sukhoi Su-30MKM
Location: Somewhere in Asia
OS: Windows 10
Has thanked: 778 times
Been thanked: 192 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by iqmal_97 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:30 pm

I could just imagine somebody painting several black squares on the sides of it to make it look like a super stealthy passenger bus.
Image
[N007HA]Nynaiqmal_97 <= My usual online callsign
Mein Imgur gallery. Feel free to use any of my screenshots (Crediting me is optional, but greatly appreciated)

User avatar
Shiny Rice
57th Polyvalent Sq
57th Polyvalent Sq
Posts: 1389
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:28 pm
Favorite Aircraft: Su-35
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 42 times

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Shiny Rice » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:59 pm

iqmal_97 wrote:I could just imagine somebody painting several black squares on the sides of it to make it look like a super stealthy passenger bus.
Epic. Tomorrow I'll get on it.
CO of the 57th Cloud Rippers
"We rip those clouds apart so you can see the sun!"
Now 100% more decomissioned!

User avatar
jetskit
Penguin Airways VA
Penguin Airways VA
Posts: 449
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:57 pm
Favorite Aircraft: 757 - 200,787,a319,a320
Location: scotland
OS: Windows 7
Has thanked: 146 times
Been thanked: 109 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by jetskit » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:29 pm

Rise and Shine wrote:
iqmal_97 wrote:I could just imagine somebody painting several black squares on the sides of it to make it look like a super stealthy passenger bus.
Epic. Tomorrow I'll get on it.
call it stealth bus 450 lol
Image
"Aviation was not an industry nor a science. It was a love."|YS ATCO|PAVA CEO|

User avatar
Honey Badger
57th Polyvalent Sq
57th Polyvalent Sq
Posts: 1843
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:17 pm
Favorite Aircraft: Anything that gets off the ground
Location: From Louisiana, stationed in Alabama
Has thanked: 226 times
Been thanked: 69 times

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Honey Badger » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:37 pm

@Jetskit: LOL.
decaff_42 wrote:Where was that picture taken! looks like an awesome museum to go to.
"After reaching about 250 flight hours, the aircraft was placed in storage in 1985. In 1996, Tacit Blue was placed on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, near Dayton, Ohio. Tacit Blue is on display in the Research and Development Hangar (within the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base perimeter and away from the main National Museum site)."-Wikipedia
USAF Computer Systems Programmer (3D0X4)
"Powerpoint Ranger"

User avatar
decaff_42
Staff
Staff
Posts: 3557
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:23 pm
Favorite Aircraft: SR-71 Blackbird
Location: Eastern United States
OS: Mac OSX
Has thanked: 622 times
Been thanked: 1351 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by decaff_42 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:45 pm

Hmmm I'm gonna have to go there at some point. spend a couple of day taking thousands of photos.


Here's a good one, the XC-142
Image
Check out my website YSDecaff for all my tutorials and addon releases.
Visit by Bitbucket page for Python codes: https://bitbucket.org/decaff42/

Server Flight Log
Addon Database

User avatar
iqmal_97
Senior Veteran
Senior Veteran
Posts: 1767
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 am
Favorite Aircraft: Sukhoi Su-30MKM
Location: Somewhere in Asia
OS: Windows 10
Has thanked: 778 times
Been thanked: 192 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by iqmal_97 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:50 am

It kinda looks like somebody decided to rip-off a poor Seaking's propellers and slapped a pair rotatable wings on its sides.

That's my description of it. ^^
Image
[N007HA]Nynaiqmal_97 <= My usual online callsign
Mein Imgur gallery. Feel free to use any of my screenshots (Crediting me is optional, but greatly appreciated)

Grigor
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 201
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:57 am
Favorite Aircraft: Ball-Bartoe Jetwing
OS: Windows XP
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 119 times

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Grigor » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:14 am

Thanks for the responses, guys. The E.555 most certainly did not disappoint. Here's another one I'd never heard of 'til recently, in a similar vein to some ideas I've been pursuing - small, simple, and well armed. Like a shrunken A-10...

Image

It was flown in a prone (face down) position, lying on a foam mattress.
The '50's were a great and innovative era in aviation, methinks.

-- Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:15 pm --

...Just took a look at the Luft46 web page. Some weird and interesting stuff there, new shapes and ideas (I'm always on the lookout for new shapes and ideas!) Thanks for the tip-off.

User avatar
iqmal_97
Senior Veteran
Senior Veteran
Posts: 1767
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 am
Favorite Aircraft: Sukhoi Su-30MKM
Location: Somewhere in Asia
OS: Windows 10
Has thanked: 778 times
Been thanked: 192 times
Contact:

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by iqmal_97 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:47 pm

No problem. It's a pleasure. I figured it'd be helpful, especially for you, Grigor. Now, about that little attack plane...
It was flown in a prone (face down) position, lying on a foam mattress.
Also known as the prone position. It's actually quite common in Luft46, especially in parasitic aircrafts.
Surprisingly, it has it's advantages over the normal seated position.
1.less tiring on long flights
2.visibility to the front and down is excellent
3.a small cockpit cross section can be used. (note of me: This leads to less drag. Less drag leads to higher top speeds and higher glide-ratios.)
4.crash survival seemed to be very good.
5.And as an added plus, it makes it harder for you to pass out in high-G maneuvers.

Now, I'm not sure if small, light, yet powerful enough engines are easy to manufacture at that time. I doubt it could be produced cheap enough to enable mass-production. Plus, with the added weight of the guns, I doubt it could even take off.

But anyhow, that's just my opinion. Pretty poster though.
Image
[N007HA]Nynaiqmal_97 <= My usual online callsign
Mein Imgur gallery. Feel free to use any of my screenshots (Crediting me is optional, but greatly appreciated)

User avatar
Lazer
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 109
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:27 am
Favorite Aircraft: C-17 Globemaster III
Location: Freeport, Grand Bahama, Bahamas
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: What-if: Rare and Unusual Aircraft Pics

Post by Lazer » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:12 pm

I just don't see how one could be comfortable holding one's head up for 5+ hours. Is there an aid for that?
Image

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests