The best and worst flight sim
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The best and worst flight sim
For me:
Worst: FlightGear (garbage, potato graphics, runs slowly even on a relatively powerful computer AND at lowest graphics, giant program size for what it is)
Best: Flight Simulator X (runs very well, decent graphics, for 25 bucks you get a decent sim, flown Microsoft sims since I can remember so I am pretty much at home with FSX)
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
Best: Digital Combat Simulator (DCS)
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
Best: Prepar3D version 4. you just need a beast to run it
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
I haven't tried the new version of YSFlight that you mentioned; maybe you could message Captain YS about the new versions being buggy, so he might fix them?
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2. The Tu-114 should really go back into service in a redesigned form.
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4. My posts are repeatedly deleted on the AM3 forum.
5. Concorde must return!
6. Fegelein can never die, even when Hitler himself tries to kill him. (Downfall parodies)
7. Embraer should restart production of the EMB-110 and EMB-120, as those are my two favourite prop planes.
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
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Really? I thought I saw, "YSFlight is the only free flight simulator where anything is possible." It still counts as a flight simulator, even if it borders on being a flying game.
I'll also throw this in and say Infinite Flight is kind of crap, from what I've seen (I don't actually play it, I watch Swiss001 videos). $4.99 on the Play Store?! AND a periodic subscription fee (monthly or yearly)?! All for a limited selection of planes and incomprehensibly bad graphics?! For the base price plus yearly subscription (about 80$-total is about 85$) one could easily buy 3 copies of FSX.
Or just download the latest stable release of YSFlight and get some addons. All free.
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1. They ain't "sharklets", like Turbofan said.
2. The Tu-114 should really go back into service in a redesigned form.
3. The L-1011 should also return, too.
4. My posts are repeatedly deleted on the AM3 forum.
5. Concorde must return!
6. Fegelein can never die, even when Hitler himself tries to kill him. (Downfall parodies)
7. Embraer should restart production of the EMB-110 and EMB-120, as those are my two favourite prop planes.
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
If I'm reading into it correctly I think he means it hasn't progressed like other sims and is dying off no matter what we try with our best efforts. It has never been comparable to X-Planes or MSFS and doesn't compete with other flight sims.
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
I have. In fact, I have sent dozens of e-mails since 2008. He continuously ignored our concerns even when given clear examples (and sometimes how to's) on bugs and fixes. Instead, he pursues other projects within the game that are hastily completed, serve no great function, and leave essential parts of the simulator broken. He has sealed his own coffin.
For what it's worth, "YSFlight is the only free flight simulator where anything is possible" did not come from the creator of YSFlight but rather was a tagline used by this forum, YSFHQ, to promote interest in the game and intrigue the interest of new users. It's more or less a blatant lie, but so is most marketing. Realistically, you're really squeezed in what you can and can not do in this simulator.Not1011 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:50 amReally? I thought I saw, "YSFlight is the only free flight simulator where anything is possible." It still counts as a flight simulator, even if it borders on being a flying game.
I'll also throw this in and say Infinite Flight is kind of crap, from what I've seen (I don't actually play it, I watch Swiss001 videos). $4.99 on the Play Store?! AND a periodic subscription fee (monthly or yearly)?! All for a limited selection of planes and incomprehensibly bad graphics?! For the base price plus yearly subscription (about 80$-total is about 85$) one could easily buy 3 copies of FSX.
Or just download the latest stable release of YSFlight and get some addons. All free.
The stable release of YSFlight is also a train wreck, the newest versions are nothing less than a dumpster fire. I may sound harsh, but as a veteran of 10 years with this simulator, I understand the struggles. I see you're sort of new (which is awesome!) but don't spend too much effort with this game, as it's pretty much dead sadly. I hate to see it go this way and we're on the swing of lowering the coffin into the ground at this point - just trying to give you a realistic expectation. Otherwise, welcome!
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I already got a message from Indy about this issue, and I replied to him today. Thing is, Captain YS needs to get off his butt and get back to actually releasing stable versions of YSFlight. Not the garbage versions he's releasing as of late. How we, as a community, get him to do that is beyond me.
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1. They ain't "sharklets", like Turbofan said.
2. The Tu-114 should really go back into service in a redesigned form.
3. The L-1011 should also return, too.
4. My posts are repeatedly deleted on the AM3 forum.
5. Concorde must return!
6. Fegelein can never die, even when Hitler himself tries to kill him. (Downfall parodies)
7. Embraer should restart production of the EMB-110 and EMB-120, as those are my two favourite prop planes.
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
Just my thoughts on the subject.
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Alternatively, he could open source the code, but we all know how that went. cough cough Linux cough cough FlightGear cough cough
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1. They ain't "sharklets", like Turbofan said.
2. The Tu-114 should really go back into service in a redesigned form.
3. The L-1011 should also return, too.
4. My posts are repeatedly deleted on the AM3 forum.
5. Concorde must return!
6. Fegelein can never die, even when Hitler himself tries to kill him. (Downfall parodies)
7. Embraer should restart production of the EMB-110 and EMB-120, as those are my two favourite prop planes.
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But if you have a clear goal and vision, and fork it rather than edit on the master, I don't see much problem.
This is precicely why my OpenYS library is open source - just clone from the master and see what you can do with it.
I wish Soji had the same mentality.
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Thing is, one has to convince Soji of the benefits of doing such a thing-and warn him about doing the mistakes Linus Torvalds, for example, did when he open sourced Linux; basically, warn him of the mistakes many other people did when converting their programs to OSS (open source software). Torvalds didn't have a very clear vision or goal; therefore, there's the cesspool that is the Linux community today, full of outright infighting, and with a half-million forks. If Soji gives the YSFlight playerbase a clear goal/vision, then there won't be the same issues.
He OSS's YSFlight as it is right now, it'll ultimately fall, as Linux sorta has.
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1. They ain't "sharklets", like Turbofan said.
2. The Tu-114 should really go back into service in a redesigned form.
3. The L-1011 should also return, too.
4. My posts are repeatedly deleted on the AM3 forum.
5. Concorde must return!
6. Fegelein can never die, even when Hitler himself tries to kill him. (Downfall parodies)
7. Embraer should restart production of the EMB-110 and EMB-120, as those are my two favourite prop planes.
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
i've got to agree FlightGear is definitely the worst
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Yes, FlightGear is definitely garbage. Though it does have some potential.
Off-topic, but same goes for Minecraft. Its golden age ended some time ago. Mojang has gone the way of Soji.
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1. They ain't "sharklets", like Turbofan said.
2. The Tu-114 should really go back into service in a redesigned form.
3. The L-1011 should also return, too.
4. My posts are repeatedly deleted on the AM3 forum.
5. Concorde must return!
6. Fegelein can never die, even when Hitler himself tries to kill him. (Downfall parodies)
7. Embraer should restart production of the EMB-110 and EMB-120, as those are my two favourite prop planes.
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Re: The best and worst flight sim
As an owner of nearly all of the DCS modules, P3D, and X-Plane 11, the newest Thrustmaster Warthog set-up, and an Oculus Rift CV1, I still enjoy YSFlight for what it is. The simplicity, accessibility, and community-drive that the platform has still makes it a relevant part of my life.
Some people on the HQ need to understand that just because YS18 isn't ideal (and that's an understatement) and they've moved on from the game, doesn't mean everyone has or should.
I do agree with plenty of what has been mentioned previously on the downfall of the newer YS versions, but I think some of us should take a step back for a minute.
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I've been thinking for a while now we should focus on the <= 2011 YSF versions. Not too many people have complaints about those versions.
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And then I will not start on Soji's plans to abandon DX support, this is going to lead to older computers being unable to run YS at anything above 10 fps (I'm not being precise here) and will mean that people really won't be adopting new versions at all!
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