Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

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Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Welshy » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:48 pm

28/8/1962
Due to the ever-increasing threat from hostile ground forces, it has been decided that within NATO we are to look at the selection of an aircraft to meet this threat. The aircraft needs to be capable of both battlefield and deep interdiction out to a range of 300 nautical miles from its home base with a loiter time over the target of 10 minutes. The selected aircraft will need to be capable of both conventional and nuclear strike. The weapons chosen will need to meet NATO standards and the nuclear armament needs to be both the B57 and WE117 with both having weights of 500lb. It has been decided that the aircraft is to carry twin 30mm or 20mm cannon with them being either the ADEN or M39 revolver cannon respectively. The designer will have to decide on the exact armament capability but it must be noted that the aircraft must retain a short/rough field capability due to war time constraints on the use of airfields. There is no requirement at this time for the aircraft to be supersonic although there is nothing limiting it from being so. The unit flyaway cost will be between 1 and 2.5 million USD including the engine. A prototype is expected to be ready before the middle of 1968 with a fly off occurring the following year.
A basic three-view design is to be ready before the 29/09/2017 with a full flying model to be ready before 11/11/2017

Models will be to the previous Birdfarm standard (HQP:GAC is also the same principles)
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by decaff_42 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:40 pm

OOOOOOHHHHHHH :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Copperhead » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:07 am

VVD's current entry (under development)

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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Granny Apple Smith » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:00 pm

So is there 60s design style limit? Like nothing futuristic?
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by plunderbird » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:47 pm

Welshy wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:48 pm
28/8/1962
Due to the ever-increasing threat from hostile ground forces, it has been decided that within NATO we are to look at the selection of an aircraft to meet this threat. The aircraft needs to be capable of both battlefield and deep interdiction out to a range of 300 nautical miles from its home base with a loiter time over the target of 10 minutes. The selected aircraft will need to be capable of both conventional and nuclear strike. The weapons chosen will need to meet NATO standards and the nuclear armament needs to be both the B57 and WE117 with both having weights of 500lb. It has been decided that the aircraft is to carry twin 30mm or 20mm cannon with them being either the ADEN or M39 revolver cannon respectively. The designer will have to decide on the exact armament capability but it must be noted that the aircraft must retain a short/rough field capability due to war time constraints on the use of airfields. There is no requirement at this time for the aircraft to be supersonic although there is nothing limiting it from being so. The unit flyaway cost will be between 1 and 2.5 million USD including the engine. A prototype is expected to be ready before the middle of 1968 with a fly off occurring the following year.
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Copperhead » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:59 pm

Granny Apple Smith wrote:
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So is there 60s design style limit? Like nothing futuristic?
Righto, pretty much nothing beyond 1968
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Welshy » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:10 am

plunderbird wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:47 pm

I think this was the Jaguar, in real life.
Actually no. It's the NBMR-3 requirement for a G.91and F-104 replacement with the VTOL requirements removed.

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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by u2fly » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:55 pm

Copperhead wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:59 pm
Granny Apple Smith wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:00 pm
So is there 60s design style limit? Like nothing futuristic?
Righto, pretty much nothing beyond 1968
So, aircrafts from 1860–1967 allowed or not?
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by decaff_42 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:58 am

u2fly wrote:
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So, aircraft from 1860–1967 allowed or not?
The point of this is to design a new airplane, not use one that existed.
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Welshy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:33 am

decaff_42 wrote:
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u2fly wrote:
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So, aircraft from 1860–1967 allowed or not?
The point of this is to design a new airplane, not use one that existed.
What he said. Although extensive modifications of existing designs are accepted and partially encouraged the point is not to just take an aircraft and paint it. If anything as many if not more points are given to the thought put into the design as are given for the actual model. The point here is to design an aircraft in a sensible way. Not stupidity and all such entries would be excluded immediately.

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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Welshy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:54 am

A week left for those wishing to meet the first deadline

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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by decaff_42 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:12 pm

I'm still working on a proposal write up, but here's my 3-view
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Nodoka Hanamura » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:47 pm

decaff_42 wrote:
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I'm still working on a proposal write up, but here's my 3-view
I'll take 30.
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Dan » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:09 pm

Here is my 3 view entry. due to reasons out of my control i cannot make the full flying model at the moment.

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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Animal » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:58 pm

Will you be able to make a model in time for the other competition deadlines? If not there is no prohibition against working in a group.
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Post by Granny Apple Smith » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:32 pm

Or just extend the deadline just like irl military R&D lolol
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by Animal » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:09 pm

irrelevant if its the ability not the time keeping him from completing before deadline
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by decaff_42 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:00 am

Here's my proposal document (totally for fun and helping me keep track of what I want in the model)
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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by u2fly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:43 am

decaff_42 wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:00 am
Here's my proposal document (totally for fun and helping me keep track of what I want in the model)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/7jdvixhs ... oposal.pdf
Only one note: for "Approved By:" no need add yourself, because you already described as designer.
If this contest organized by Welshy, so your design should be approved by him:

Code: Select all

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Re: Late 60s Design Contest by Birdfarm 2

Post by decaff_42 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:58 am

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totally for fun
you are reading too much into this.
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