Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
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Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
MAP: Hawaii Evening
SERVER: Civil Aviation Server (YSCAS)
As some of you know by now, Patrick31337 will be hosting Civilian Flight Night on Sunday, January 11. YSATC will be providing air traffic control services (exact times and which airports will have ATC services and for how long is to be determined, so check back for updates). Flights will take place in Hawaii only.
To make this event fun for everyone, we need pilots and ATC to be more or less on the same page. The hosted map will be Hawaii Evening, and to facilitate ATC services, we will be using AirNav charts. The plan is to have ATC service at four of the major airports: Honolulu, Lihue, Kona and Kahului (Maui) (subject to change at any time). Patrick will be updating the map to include some additional start positions, so no worries when it comes to those. All YSATC asks is that pilots adhere to a few simple rules and it should go smoothly.
ATC will be tower/ground only. So departing pilots will resume their own navigation after takeoff when the controller advises as such. Since no airport will have Terminal Area Control (TAC) that covers a 25 mile radius from the controlled airports, you will be navigating on your own to the designated runways but do contact the tower on the respective frequencies when you are about 15 miles from said airport. Basically what this means is, fly as you normally would, contact us when you are about 15 miles from said airport, and then when you are established on final, contact the tower for that airport. We'll take it from there. Simple enough yes?
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If you want to participate, please file a flight plan as follows (reply to this thread):
UserName: [username]
Callsign: [airline and flight number] (for general aviation aircraft, make up an N-number you like in the format N###AB; this is an example only)
Origin: [origin airport; either the IATA code/airport name]
Destination: [destination airport; either the IATA code/airport name]
Aircraft: [aircraft] (full aircraft model designation please)
Requested cruise altitude: [FL ###; eastbound - odd; westbound - even; e.g.: Flying HNL-Kona, FL 250/270 etc; flying Kona-Lihue, FL240/260 etc). Cruising altitudes should be at or above FL 150; however, exceptions will be made for very short flights, VFR flights and aircraft that just can't make it up there.
YSATC prefers you file your flight upto one hour before the event begins, but will take flight plans during the event. If you file flight plans during the event, please use Teamspeak chat, not the F12 chat.
Although it is not required, I strongly encourage anyone who wishes to join the fun to take a glance through the YSATC Guide. Mainly, the chapters on CRHAF, ground and tower controlling should give you an idea of what to expect as pilots.
Links to AirNav charts for main airports:
HNL chart
LIH chart (Lihue)
OGG chart (Kahului)
HKO chart (Kona)
HTO chart (Hilo)
Only four of these airports will have ground/tower services, the rest will be UNICOM (pilot-to-pilot communication). Also, from my experience, a fair number of us are familiar with how to read taxiway names, however, progressive taxi instructions will be available to those who are uncomfortable using the phonetic alphabet.
Ok, last but not least, 8 simple rules:
1. Please log in with your callsign (i.e. airline code and flight number) (e.g. NCA 23) (will help controllers for sure)
2. Please start at a ground starting position.
3. If there are several aircraft on a frequency, one at a time please.
4. In general, you will log onto the server, spawn when you're ready, then contact the ground/tower frequency at your airport (if there's one). If you are at a UNICOM airport, do not use any of the dedicated frequencies.
5. Use of Teamspeak is highly encouraged. You can still use the chat function (F12), but expect responses to be slower.
6. Readback of all instructions is required (except wind conditions). This includes the departure clearance
7. Please announce yourself when you are established on final approach to an airport.
8. There's a great way to learn more about ATC if you wish - it's called Google Keep in mind though we will be sticking to the YSATC Guide (linked above)
Also, you do not have to "announce" everything you do ("now taxiing to the gate", now retracting landing gear" etc etc.) Just reading back controller instructions is good enough . And background chatter to a minimum; a little chit-chat here and there when things are quiet is fine, but if it gets to the point that it starts interrupting with ATC transmissions, we'll have to stop it.
Yes, I know, that seems like a lot but isn't really. A little "order" goes a long way.
Well that's it people, hope to see you on Sunday!
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EDIT: I forgot to mention that pilots will be switching frequencies themselves (just drag your name to the correct frequency in teamspeak). You are allowed to briefly level off just for that purpose if you need to.
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EDIT 2: The following runways are the active runways at controlled airports. So basically, pilots will set up their approaches for the deignated landing runways, and tower (where available) will guide pilots to designated departure runways. At non-controlled airports, there are no designated runways. Just announce on UNICOM which runway you are going depart/arrive.
HNL: RWY 8L - all narrowbody departures, all arrivals; RWY 8R: all heavy departures only; RWY 4R: narrowbody arrivals when traffic does not conflict with 8L traffic. all amphibious departures, 8W; all amphibious arrivals, 4W.
Lihue (LIH): all arrivals on RWY 35, all departures on RWY 03
Kahului (OGG): all arrivals/departures on RWY 02; RWY 05 is available for general aviation aircraft only (it's 4,990 feet long).
Kona (HKO): all arrivals/departures on RWY 35.
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Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
Callsign: Natcom 10
Origin: Molokai
Destination: Honolulu International Airport
Aircraft: PBY Catalina
Requested cruise altitude: 16,000 ft (will be pushing it, the service ceiling is 15,800 ) EDIT: I will need a cruise altitude of 6,000 ft. This plane can't climb high enough fast enough to make anything higher.
Callsign: Natcom 03
Origin: Honolulu International Airport
Destination: Hilo International Airport
Aircraft: L1049 Super Constellation
Requested cruise altitude: FL210
Callsign: YSCAS 1
Origin: Hilo International Airport
Destination: Kahului Airport
Aircraft: Hawker 400
Requested cruise altitude: 16,000 ft
Callsign: Natcom S1
Origin: Kahului Airport
Destination: Kona International Airport
Aircraft: DHC-8
Requested cruise altitude: 15,000 ft
Callsign: Natcom 12
Origin: Kona International Airport
Destination: Lihue Airport
Aircraft: DeHavilland 106 Commet
Requested cruise altitude: FL240
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Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
Patrick31337 wrote: Requested cruise altitude: 16,000 (will be pushing it, the service ceiling is 15,800 )
Sounds good might come with something. See if im not busy.
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Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
Callsign: PAX820 - Penguin 820
Origin: Kona
Destination: Honolulu International Airport
Aircraft: [PAVA] Concorde.
Requested cruise altitude: FL300
(If possible, could this flight have a water cannon salute, it's our last scheduled Concorde flight, and its been in the fleet since day 1...)
Callsign: PAX200 - Penguin 200
Origin: Honolulu International Airport
Destination: Lihue
Aircraft: [PAVA] MD-80
Requested cruise altitude: FL200
Callsign: PAX800 - Penguin 800
Origin : Lihue
Destination : Honolulu International Airport
Aircraft: [PAVA] MD-80
Requested Cruise Altitude :FL200
Callsign: PAX860
Origin : Honolulu International Airport
Destination : Molokai Airport
Aircraft: [PAVA] Emb190
Requested Cruise Altitude :FL100
(^Depending on time, this flight might not take place^)
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Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
Callsign: PAX 350
Origin: PHNL
Destination: PHOG
Aircraft: [PAVA]B757-200
Requested cruise altitude: FL220
Callsign: PAX 530
Origin: PHOG
Destination: PHTO
Aircraft: [PAVA]B757-200
Requested cruise altitude: FL200
Callsign: PAX 320 Heavy
Origin: PHTO
Destination: PHNL
Aircraft: [PAVA]B787-9
Requested cruise altitude: FL250
Callsign: PAX 510 Heavy
Origin: PHNL
Destination: PHKO
Aircraft: [PAVA]B767-300
Requested cruise altitude: FL220
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Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
Leg.1
Callsign: ASCOT 920
Origin: Kona PHKO
Destination: Maui PHOG
Aircraft: Beechcraft Super King Air 200
Requested cruise altitude: FL160
Route/UPP (UPOLU) LNY (LANAI)
Remark/Multi-crew with Dan
Leg.2
Callsign: ASCOT 920
Origin: Maui PHOG
Destination: Honolulu PHNL
Aircraft: Beechcraft Super King Air 200
Requested cruise altitude: FL160
Route/MKK (MOLOKAI) CKH (KOKO HEAD)
Remark/Multi-crew with Dan
Leg.3
Callsign: ASCOT 920
Origin: Honolulu PHNL - Touch and go at Lihue PHLI
Destination: Honolulu PHNL
Aircraft: Beechcraft Super King Air 200
Requested cruise altitude: FL160 westbound then FL150 eastbound after t/go
Route/HN(EWA) SOK (SOUTH KAUAI)
Remark/Multi-crew with Dan/This flight is time pending on the day.
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Civilian Flight Night - Sunday, Jan. 11th
Callsign: JAF (JetAirFly) 371
Origin: Honolulu HNL RW08R
Destination: Lihue City RW03
Aircraft: Boeing 737-700
Requested cruise altitude: FL180
UserName: [VT-171]ThatMisfit
Callsign: JAF (JetAirFly) 371
Origin: Lihue City RW03
Destination: Honolulu RW08R
Aircraft: Boeing 737-700
Requested cruise altitude: FL180
UserName: [VT-171]ThatMisfit
Callsign: JAF (JetAirFly) 371
Origin: Honolulu HNL RW08R
Destination: Molokai RW5
Aircraft: Boeing 737-700
Requested cruise altitude: FL150
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