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[COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:29 am
by Welshy
27/10/1987

NATO Maritime Operations Working Group

It has been decided by a group of our member states that we are to seek a Request for Proposals relating to a new class of littoral maritime patrol aircraft. This aircraft must be capable of operating for two hours on station when 250nm from its base and be equipped to take on both Diesel-Electric Submarines and also small surface craft. The primary operating locations for this aircraft have been deemed to be similar to the Baltic, Mediterranean and Persian Gulf areas and therefore this aircraft is not intended to be a replacement for existing Blue-Water Maritime Patrol Aircraft such as the Nimrod or P-3.

Therefore, the member states have asked that prospective entrants consider the following:
  • Short Take Off and Landing performance
  • Ability to accurately track submarines whilst submerged
  • A mix of both depth bombs and Anti-shipping missiles
  • Ability to carry 2 Short-Range Air to Air Missiles for self defence
  • Use of off the shelf components in order to minimise costs (although this should not detract from advanced entries to the competition)
Entrants must consider that the first flight of the aircraft is scheduled for 1990 with entry into service no later than 1994.

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YSFlight Related Things
  • The entry should conform with Birdfarm guidelines as per the previous contest
  • Either sonobuoy deployment or an advanced sonar usage
  • The modding of the weapons is not required and we hope to have some weapons capable to be added to the aircraft to simulate the asthetic
  • Proposals should be submitted no later than 31/12/2017 with a flyable model no later than 14/02/2018 (All Dates are World Format not US)
  • The initial proposal should consist of a three view of the aircraft alongside some basic facts about the aircraft and the flyable model should be accompanied by a blurb regarding the aircraft and its development.
  • Points will be awarded for more detailed proposals and although the detail will not be a large factor it will never the less be considered when the decision is made.

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:19 pm
by Animal
I'm excited for the variety that this competition can generate. Rotary and fixed wing platforms both could fill the role

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:56 am
by decaff_42
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ARMAMENT
To satisfy the program requirements, a selection of NATO-standard weapons shall be integrated into the P-4A upon initial release to service; currently scheduled for 1994. The wide availability of these weapons will enable the P-4A to quickly enter front-line service using existing weapons stockpiles.
WEAPONS & STORES:
AIR-TO-GROUND WEAPONS
• GBU-12 or PW4 - 500lb class Laser Guided Bomb.
• Mk 81 250lb class bomb
o LGB kits are potentially available for such weapons.
AIR-TO-AIR WEAPONS
• AIM-9L/P/M Sidewinder IR Missile
o NATO standard by Mid-Seventies were the AIM-9L/P missiles, but the US would have the AIM-9M widely available by the early 1990s.
AIR-TO-SURFACE WEAPONS
• AGM-84 Harpoon – Medium range air-launched cruise missile.
• AGM-65 Maverick – Short-range air-launched guided missile.
ANTI-SUBMARINE WEAPONS
• Mk.46 Mod 5A Torpedo
o NATO Standard weapon with shallow-water modifications. First deployed in 1989.
OTHER STORES
• 100 Flares/Chaff for distracting IR and Radar guided missiles.
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Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:45 pm
by tigershark
Here is my anti sub aircraft i doing for this competition. i hope more enter :)
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Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:13 pm
by decaff_42
That's a serious aircraft there! Looks really cool. I like the soviet influences!

EDIT:

Okay here's a 3-view of my WIP model as it stands now.
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Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:42 am
by Bombcat
I am pleased to present the inital proposal for the SAAB AS 102 Nemesis
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SAAB AS 102C Nemesis
SAAB P-6 Nemesis

Role: Littoral/Medium Range Maritime Patrol

Crew:9

Engines: 2 x Pratt 7 Witney Canada PW124B turboprops rated at 2522eshp (1881kW)

Length:
81.2ft, 24.75m (without refueling probe)
82.9ft, 25.27m (including probe)

Wingspan:
70.34ft, 21.44m

Hight:
22.54ft 6.87 on wheels,
19.69ft 6m wheels up

Wing Area: 450.04ft^2, 41.81m^2

Empty weight:
approx 24000lbs
mtow: approx 37000lbs
Fuel load 6500lbs

Weapons:
ASW: mk46 light ASW torpedo, up to 2 internal, 3 external
ASuW: 2 x RBS-15F or AGM-85A Harpoon anti ship missiles, up to 6 AGM-65F light anti-ship missiles
Self Protection: 2x AIM-9L/M Sidewinders, others under development
General: Heavy pylons can load up to 3 1000lb class guided or unguided bombs, or up to 2 1500lb class weapons. Central pylon rated for 1000lbs, outer belly pylons rated for 2000lbs each. Inner wing pylons rated for 750lbs, outer wing pylons rated for 500lbs each. Up to 11 GBU-12s can be loaded.

Equipment: Surface Serach radar, type AN/APS-137
MAD
50 sonobouys launched by internal rotary launcher
EOS turret
systems subject to change.

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:02 am
by Copperhead
Possibly last but not least, VVD's entry to the competition, Mule MPA.

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Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:12 pm
by Dunatian
ok help me, i have to make an actual craft or i have to design my own?

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:35 pm
by Welshy
This is a design challenge however the deadline for entrants has passed

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:04 pm
by tigershark
Handley page phoenix
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the informasion
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Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:09 pm
by Dunatian
Welshy wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:35 pm
This is a design challenge however the deadline for entrants has passed
ok so i couldn't design anything?

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:51 am
by Doomsday
The posting for this contest was posted on November 18th. Per the first post, the deadline for having a proposal design (could be a rough sketch of the plane with some general performance information of the proposed plane) for this contest was due on December 31st. The deadline for having a working model of the plane is due by February 14th. Don't worry though! There will be another design competition after this competition is over!

Welshy could correct me if I am wrong on any of these points.

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:39 am
by ZyreaxGaming_YT
Copperhead wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:02 am
Possibly last but not least, VVD's entry to the competition, Mule MPA.

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:o :shock: :D

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:08 pm
by Monoceros
Has this ended? Because I had something in mind I wanted to post but I overlooked it and never saw this thread.

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:35 pm
by Welshy
The first deadline passed nearly a week ago

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:02 am
by decaff_42
I've got a Harpoon and Mk46 SRF for anyone who would like to use it.

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Spacing out the Internal Weapon Releases.

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:30 pm
by PilotC
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Came up with this great idea for a Maritime patrol aircraft.
/S (https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/c ... es_s_mean/)
Good luck to everyone

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:41 am
by Monoceros
Here's my concept. Doesn't have weapons yet as it's just the model for now. I'll have a DAT at some point.

RB-61 Proteus. I may change it if it doesn't conform to numerical standards.

Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:49 am
by Gunny
Kinda disappointed no one came up with something along these lines, not this exact design of course but the general concept.
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Re: [COMPETITION] Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:00 am
by Monoceros
@Gunny I loosely based the RB-61 on the P6M. Mine is supposed to land on water and runway sorta like a mix of the US-1A.