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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by decaff_42 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:38 pm

That cockpit is looking extremely detailed. How large is it as an SRF? You might not want to go much above 1.5 - 2mb.

If you want to take something from my 737, or 727 cockpits for the panels, go for it.
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by Gunny » Wed May 21, 2014 4:50 pm

My personal apologies NightRaven for my unintended slight on m-chat my friend :oops:
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by NightRaven » Thu May 22, 2014 12:16 pm

decaff_42 wrote:That cockpit is looking extremely detailed. How large is it as an SRF? You might not want to go much above 1.5 - 2mb.

If you want to take something from my 737, or 727 cockpits for the panels, go for it.
The file is a dnm to allow transparency support (srf transparency never works for me somehow) and if I remember correctly is it about 500-600 KB.
Now I'm left with the seats, top panel and maintenance officer seat + dials. Shouldn't be too hard...
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by flamerboy67664 » Thu May 22, 2014 12:48 pm

It's ok my friend.

BTW who is aerith?
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by Nodoka Hanamura » Thu May 22, 2014 5:45 pm

flamerboy67664 wrote:It's ok my friend.

BTW who is aerith?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Aerith_Gainsborough
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by flamerboy67664 » Fri May 23, 2014 6:49 am

I have something.

I just converted the CLS DC-10's For-FSX .mdl file to Wavefront .obj file.

It has animations already, if you use this you need to get those animations in DNMviewer configured again.

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(Just helping you to have the most detailed model in YS history)

PS. Remove those ground vehicles attached to the side. CLS included a stair and an pushback truck and they are so annoying even on FSX but CLS has made a fix to make them disappear

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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by NightRaven » Fri May 23, 2014 7:48 am

Erm
1) There's no point
2) I have that program
3) The obj will not have animations
4) There will be too many parts to rename, merge and paint
5) The dnm will be too laggy to test
The reasons why I say all this is because I have tried before with fighters. A small MiG-33 from AC3 when converted, was 1.7 MB large. And that was without animations and paint and it was missing afterburners too. Many parts also had to be edited, merged and animated, which was a total pain in the arse. I have stopped the MiG-33's development for now, and the last update I made on it on this thread was last year. I do not want to go through the horror of doing that all over again.

What you are doing here is slowing me down. I understand your eagerness about this project, but this is completely unnecessary, as I have to redo all the logo shrinkwrapping, positioning of the cockpit etc, which will only slow down the pace of this project. Importing and exporting the obj and dnm will also be a major issue.

Also it will never be the most detailed aircraft in YS history. If anything, CHF's 777s are, with a very accurate model with most major animations in, and it even has an actual cabin (passenger seats and all).

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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by flamerboy67664 » Fri May 23, 2014 7:52 am

So you won't use it?

(Methinking I should download Blender and use these models for another full DC-10 package (Series 10, 15, 30 and 40 since CLS has all of em)
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by NightRaven » Fri May 23, 2014 9:04 am

No... never.

The point of me making this is not just to make a DC-10 available to YSFlight. It also about the experience of scratch modelling. If you have the skills and experience like me and decaff, you will find scratch modelling not only a challenge but also leisure. It can be extremely fulfilling for us when we scratch model and admire the final product. That, to us, is one of, if not the most important thing in modding.

What this is to me is that you are implying that my work on this model for the past 3 months is equal to naught. Again, I say that that view is in my perspective. It is like a maths question which requires a heck lot of concepts and equations to solve. You do what you think is right, only to find that after using up so much ink, brain power and time, your answer is incorrect. It can be very frustrating.

If you really want to convert those models yourself, I can only say this :

Good luck. :lol:

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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by Zack » Fri May 23, 2014 10:39 am

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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by Midnight Rambler » Fri May 23, 2014 11:02 am

He just wants to know if there will be other variations... Flamerboy isn't demanding every variant to be made. In fact, he's considering learning how to mod in order to make it happen.

There's nothing wrong with that. Rather, it should be expected if you're posting WIP's in a thread.
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by NightRaven » Fri May 23, 2014 11:23 am

Stahp this flame war before it gets out of hand.

This is a thread for updates, not for arguments.

working cockpit is now included.
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The yoke, gear, spoiler and brake lever are now included.

Now I just need to know which panels have lights/glow in the dark... :?

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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by flamerboy67664 » Fri May 23, 2014 12:57 pm

Nicee

Can't wait to fly my real baby in YSFlight!

I have a mid-dawn photo took from FSX.
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Hope this helps :)
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by decaff_42 » Fri May 23, 2014 1:57 pm

NIghtraven that is most impressive. :shock:

That looks like it will be a joy to fly once you get that bird into the air!
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by VNAF ONE » Fri May 23, 2014 7:49 pm

I can't wait for this! I miss seeing the FedEx DC-10's buzzing around at night. We have a hub at Indy for them. With working stuff inside the cockpit, this out to be amazing to pilot. Is it gonna have a HUD or steam gauges?
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by flamerboy67664 » Sat May 24, 2014 7:58 am

Methinks the throttle quadrant is so bulge
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by NightRaven » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:26 pm

welp
was rather ticked off by the previous post as editing the quadrant would be a major undertaking and would require a lot of work to make the brake levers compatible.

However, as the position of the entire cockpit was wrong, I decided to just do it anyway.
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I have shifted it forwards and resized it here and there, and now the edge of the main cockpit panel is in line at the edges of the windows.
Also, I saw 1 of decaff's Tu-95 instrument dials, and realised that it was the sub-divisions and the needle glowing, not the entire dial. So I went in and made all the dial divisions.
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way more detailed now. :)
Repositioning and resizing of the cockpit also allowed for more leg room, so I added rudder pedals. And yes they do work in sync with the rudder.
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Oh and there are new flap and slat levers (on the right of the throttle quadrant). Also notic the dials' sub-divisions.
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by decaff_42 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:28 pm

That is really, really impressive work. I can't wait to fly them. Are those some of my decals in there? If so, I'm glad they were useful. If not, then I'm even more impressed by your work.
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by Turbofan » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:52 pm

Simply awesome NightRaven, can't wait to take these up there! That flightdeck looks especially cool with all the details you've put in.

On a trivia note some of Fedex's DC 10-10s and -30s were converted to the MD 10-10/30, basically the conversion was to a full glass cockpit similar to the MD 11F:

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A good chunk of the fleet is still in the original configuration though.
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Re: NightRaven's Shed

Post by flamerboy67664 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:29 am

That was nice. Cant wait to fly my old girl (which is in the Mojave boneyard now :cry: )
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