The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

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The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Midnight Rambler » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:58 am

Hey there,

The civilian section of YSF has moved forward in the past year with the re-birth of Virtual Airlines and a general movement towards starting a civilian 'squad'. While this has been great, there are several things that I'd like to see happen to help the civilian portion of YSF get larger.

I'd like to simplify the way VA's can get started in YSF especially on YSFHQ, this will help promote the start up of Virtual Airlines (much the same as the combat squads).
I am planning on running the 42South Server as a civilian server, hopefully this will promote non-combat flying.
A centralised flight logging system on YSFHQ.
More events that can incorporate different/more aspects of civilian flight (VA 'relay race', etc...)

I'm posting this here because I would like everyone who would like a say to get their opinion out in the open.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Honey Badger » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:06 pm

That sounds awesome. It would be a good server to go to for airlines as you wouldn't need to worry about trolls. All that is required is a map with lots of start positions. Neil had suggested making for his buses then running it on his server.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by DavideV » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:49 pm

...and a set of standards every VA should stick to, a sort of ICAO for YS, otherwise every VA should have it's own flying rules and, on a server, that is not a very good thing.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by David » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:46 pm

interesting..especially about the centralized logging system. we need one. I am so for inter-va competitions and things that would be sweet as man. Promote friendly completion instead of the harsh antics. :D

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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Midnight Rambler » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:55 am

Thanks for the input guys, by next week the 42South server will be civilian friendly. I plan on running the megadodo maps which I'm playing around with to make them as friendly as possible, I'll release them after they're ready.

The centralised logging system is being developed at the moment. Chances are we wont even need to fill out a form, but simply fly and virtual money will be collected through certain parameters (minimum flight time etc...).

I plan on working with VA owners on a set of VA standards.

Check back here often for updates.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Crazypilot » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:32 am

Can you do anything with ''virtual money'' or is like to show the value of a VA or is it just for fun?I'm also all go for inter-VA competitions and not harsh antics as dave has already said.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Midnight Rambler » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:50 am

This was the system a few years ago.

http://marcjeanmougin.free.fr/ys_server ... rlines.php

It was mostly just for fun, but every VA had pilots flying trying to become the most active VA. Both in hours flown and money gained.

Here is some information about the system on YSP2:

http://yspilots.com/yspf/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=100
Just scroll down to the Airline heading.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by bernholm » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:28 am

What are civilian airlines? What's all this Civilian stuff?
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Crazypilot » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:34 am

Virtual Airlines like ones in real life but their in YSF like FAVA,HAVA,Virto Air IAVA,OAVA and so on.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Midnight Rambler » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:38 am

bernholm wrote:What are civilian airlines? What's all this Civilian stuff?
It's the part of YS that doesn't shoot guns... And flies airliners....

A VA (Virtual Airline) are the civilian squads essentially, currently FAVA is the biggest. Over the years we've had many different VAs.
Like most of YSFHQ, the civilian section becomes fairly quiet over summer (the proper summer, our summer).

With continual site updates we should be able to streamline the flight logging systems with HQ rather than rely on other sites.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Welshy » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:07 am

Yes really MR, your really meant to have a BBQ for Christmas like my Auntie in Darwin ;)

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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by wingzfan99 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:38 pm

Midnight Rambler wrote: Like most of YSFHQ, the civilian section becomes fairly quiet over summer (the proper summer, our summer).
I take offense.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Shutter » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:49 pm

wingzfan99 wrote:
Midnight Rambler wrote: Like most of YSFHQ, the civilian section becomes fairly quiet over summer (the proper summer, our summer).
I take offense.
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Phoenix » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:02 pm

wingzfan99 wrote:
Midnight Rambler wrote: Like most of YSFHQ, the civilian section becomes fairly quiet over summer (the proper summer, our summer).
I take offense.

I'm English, so I dont. Plus I'm somewhere warm anyways (in the northern hemisphere :D ).

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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by TheJuli » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:26 am

What i want to happen with ysflight, is that, there would be a server and civil planes will fly with a timetable and there was ATC and GTC. Just like real life or like some people do in FSX! That would be AWESOME :D

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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by acf492 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:21 am

TheJuli wrote:What i want to happen with ysflight, is that, there would be a server and civil planes will fly with a timetable and there was ATC and GTC. Just like real life or like some people do in FSX! That would be AWESOME :D
On days where it is busy, I have had the joy of landing with ATC and then receiving service from ground vehicles or even a bus!

The only thing I have trouble envisioning is the timetables, since my 9pm is not necessarily everyone elses 9pm, and in some cases, I only meet certain people when I stay up late - like really really late.

I'm glad to hear that you have the same vision as I do, Juli. And there are others, like Admiralrol, Barlock, Flake and Lomi1 who really contribute to a realistic, interesting online experience.

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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Flake » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:46 am

I often provide ATC Services to all pilots on servers if the choose to interact with it.

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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Phoenix » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:16 pm

Guys, I think some of us are forgetting something.

Unlike a real airline, where its your job and you must be there, this is a game and people cant always make the deadlines that allow a timetable.

I know some VAs are trying it but really i think this goes a bit far as you demand that members can either fly now, or not at all.

However ATC services are something that can be enjoyable, but I am afraid they only work if absolutely everyone on the server wants this. I have seen ATCs ruined by a guy who disliked it.

The YS community can simply not sustain such activity. If you look at just the airshows (which are one guy at a time), they keep having changes until the last minute! The changes you would have to make to a timetable would be impossible!



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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Gunny » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:26 pm

Phoenix makes a vary good point.A VA that can not be flexible with there own aircrew's will not draw the pilots they need to keep flying.Most members here are still required to be in school and get good grades by there folks.So if you are requiring your pilots to choose between flying and getting good grades guess who loses.Everybody loses you lose pilots and the student catches hell from mom and dad for not paying attention to there studying.And being on the computer at 3 am when they should be sleeping.Remember guys real life always takes presidents over a game. ;)
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Re: The Future of Civilian Flight in YSF

Post by Flake » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:59 pm

*precedence. :P

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