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Post by waspe414 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:38 pm

NightRaven wrote:Does it? I find it works alright. It's just the logic that is difficult to wrap your head around, but it is correct. If you rudder upside down to the right, you are actually turning to the left, hence the heading decreases in value. It works fine in YS - I just tested.
Turning the rudder left puts the nose left, and diverges from the velocity vector the same amount whether right side up or inverted. The issue with inversion is you drift in the opposite direction, despite the heading and velocity vector saying otherwise. It's a very slight and difficult to notice issue (and frankly doesn't really affect all that much), but it does exist.

You can test it by inverting straight and level, noting your heading, kicking the rudder one direction, and watch your heading return to its original value, despite the rudder being hard over in the other direction.
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Post by Neocon » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:24 am

Isn't that because of the auto rudder?

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Post by waspe414 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:59 am

I don't have autorudder turned on, and even with it on the total deflection is still in the direction you're pushing (albeit less than maximum).
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Post by Flake » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:46 am

Fly down the left "lane" of the runway inverted and rudder left, you'll end up in the right lane by some wizardry
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Post by Neocon » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:49 am

I'm still confused. If you are up-side-down and turn left from your perspective, an observer on the ground should see you turn right. The plane physically turns as it should, and would in the real world. The problem is that the compass does not invert with the plane, so if you are headed north while inverted, west is on the right but will still show as east. I believe this would also happen in the real world unless the electronic compass was made to compensate for being read inverted.

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Post by Flake » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:34 am

The problem is that the heading does change ( the nose would direct into the far left of the runway, however the aircraft drifts to the right. I'll make a video when I can
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Post by ksh » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:37 am

they should add onto ysflight some rain!

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Post by Flake » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:34 pm

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Post by NightRaven » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:51 pm

Ah I see now.
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