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Post by decaff_42 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:12 pm

The upper aircraft is the F-5F aircraft. As Kujo pointed out, it, the inlets, and armament give that away. The F-5 two seaters all dipped in the nose, which was carried over to the T-38. I think it was done to keep the back-seater with a less-obstructed view forward. This is something that was present in early F-5 models like this F-5B.
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It should be noted that this aircraft has a similar nose to the T-38C. The noses have changed over time as shown on this T-38A:
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Here is an F-5B with another nose style.
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To my eye, it looks like they took the F-5B and updated the inlets and wings and removed the weapons capabilities. The F-5B was a trainer/combat aircraft, so that is probably why it has a lot of similarities. I think the engine nozzles were updated slightly, but I have not consistently seen that.
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Post by VNAF ONE » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:19 pm

So did the F-5B come first and then the T-38? It's also interesting how the T-38 has changed as well because the current ones look different than that T-38A (middle picture). Again, the F-5F exhibits very similar features and almost looks more like a T-38 which is why this is so confusing lol.
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Post by decaff_42 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:38 pm

Actually, according the wikipedia, the F-5 was developed along with the T-38. I was mistaken. Probably explains the large similarities to the F-5B as they were designed for very similar purposes.
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Post by iqmal_97 » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:43 pm

TIL guys... ;)
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Post by Kujo » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:18 pm

*realises 7/8 of thread is about the differences of the F-5 & T-38* lol
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Post by NajmiCreative » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:22 pm

and then,who's gonna made the T-38??no one have free time for?
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Post by VNAF ONE » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:37 am

Y'know, funny thing today. While at Sun 'n Fun, we noticed a jet takeoff. My buddies called it a T-38, but I knew better! It was an F-5B/F and we argued about it for about 15 minutes (looking like crazies of course) until it was announced. Goes to say I was happy my research paid off :lol:

Since we do clearly know the difference now, I second (I think) this request in full. I'd like to see a good T-38 model around.
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Post by ysmajor » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:23 pm

Looks like the nose gear is located more to the front as well.
Never looked at the Talon closely actually. Pretty bird.

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Post by Copperhead » Thu May 14, 2015 12:19 am

Anybody wanna try and work off of this thing? http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/fre ... del/711530

Just an idear...
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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by Dan » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:13 pm

I got eyes on for this project. Is anyone currently doing a T-38 or do I have permission to Lock on Target and Engage? :lol:

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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by decaff_42 » Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:18 pm

I have not heard of anything, but I believe someone did an F-5/T-38 Exhaust/AB work a while ago. Kujo perhaps? I do not remember. Perhaps looking into that would be worth-while as it would add some nice detail!
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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by Dan » Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:54 pm

Thanks Decaff, I'll look into it as I don't want to step over someones work if there's aleady one in progress. :)

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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by VNAF ONE » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:15 pm

As far as I know, no one is actually making the aircraft but parts of it probably exist. Id say go for it! I want one lol.
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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by Kujo » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:04 am

NightRaven has announced that he "might" do one in the near future, after all of the HQP:GAC stuff is done. But that seems a bit longer than I was expecting to wait (no problem with that) MAYBE I can negotiate with him if he really wants to do it. If not then you guys can go ahead and take over :)

The original request was to make one blank T-38C, then send it my way so that I could release a pack with multiple liveries of it. I would give the base model creator lots of credit for helping out and making it. I'm not sure if you would be fine with this plan, though.
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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by Dan » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:08 am

Ah right k. nightraven can continue.

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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by Gunny » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:19 am

Might is pretty darn tenuous thread to hold on to. You either will or you won't.And so what if there are any number of modelers working on one type? What wrong with a little variation in style and experience.If you want to make one than make one.Don't wait on someone else because you may be waiting for a vary long time,if ever. ;)
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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by Dan » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:03 am

No need to worry guys we have worked this one out. Me and Kujo will be delivering you guys a fresh T-38C. :D

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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by Kujo » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:21 pm

Yes it is, but some of the paints are not completed due to the business of my schedule. They will be released some time this year, that's for sure ;)

Thanks a bunch, Dan. You've been a big help in developing an aircraft I've always wanted to see in YS :)
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Re: Request: T-38C Talon

Post by plunderbird » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:53 am

Good book to read about the F5, T38 and the F20, is Modern Combat aircraft 25 Northrop F-5/F-20. By Jerry Scutts.

Isbn number 0-7110-1576-7 Might be hard to get as it was published in the 80's.
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