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Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:52 am
by Neocon
The front gear (whelgear) is 2.321 meters higher than the rear gear. Try making them:

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LEFTGEAR  -3.44m -4.620m 0.860m  #LEFT LANDING GEAR POSITION
RIGHGEAR  3.44m -4.620m 0.860m  #RIGHT LANDING GEAR POSITION
WHELGEAR  0.0m -4.620m 23.718m  #WHEEL POSITION

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:49 pm
by decaff_42
Well, I've been working on this little mesh from Skyline, as shown earlier.

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Still have a few things to work on, but it feels like it's 95% there.

-- Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:49 pm --

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Working on an interesting paint scheme i saw.

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:15 pm
by Turbofan
Now that is an awesome piece of work.

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:59 am
by FreezingFalcon
Great painting on the Oman Air 737 :) !

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:51 pm
by decaff_42
Got two versions of the newish American Airlines livery on 737-800s :D

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I am enjoying working on detailed paints. Rather than try to go for a balance of quantity and quality of paints by picking simpler paint schemes, going for extreme detail is rather exciting and enjoyable.


Some Close-ups
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Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:23 pm
by Alpha Star
Wow, really nice work!

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:03 am
by VNAF ONE
Now that looks real!!!

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:28 pm
by jetskit
That looks awesome!

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:28 am
by decaff_42
I should get this flying by the end of today....

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Using This Website Makes the gradients easier to get right or decently close to correct.

-- Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:20 pm --

Saw this livery in the cool paint schemes topic and thought it was a shame it wasn't made for YSFlight yet. The tail, while looking simple, was actually 80% of all the work going into this mod. A lot of sniping and shrink wrapping the mesh to conform around all four parts of the vertical tail. :shock:

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-- Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:30 pm --

UPDATE TIME!
First the Velocity is currently on hold while Skyline passes along some information about how his airplane is configured inside.

SECOND:
Okay...I guess I'm kinda drawn to the boeing aircraft and I got inspired the other day when I was flying the C-32 on the CivAv server with a whole bunch of other people.

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I originally found this model on the sketchup warehouse and when I downloaded it, there were 198,000 face. To put that into perspective, that is the equivalent to 6 707 models. It turns out that every seat in the aircraft was included, and the engines had an insane amount of detail:

Each one of these engines had 20,000 faces:
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This cockpit has roughly 30,000 faces.
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What I've Done So Far:
  1. Repair the fuselage and smooth out the major shading issues and obj import errors
  2. Repair the windows and reduce vertex found ~50%
  3. Re-make the engine blades with 85% fewer vertices
  4. Replace the vertical and horizontal tails to feature actual airfoils that are more accurate
  5. Update the wing to use an airfoil that is pretty close the 757 (The real one is proprietary :evil: )
  6. Repair the cockpit windows and window frame to not be as rippled as the waves on the ocean
  7. Add the foundation for leading edge slats on the wings
What I'm planning on Doing Next
  • Add flaps to the wings
  • Add spoilers
  • Add cabin doors and bag doors
  • Integrate original landing gear and gear doors with the new wing.
  • Update landing gear and correct issues.
Once all the mesh work is done, I can go and animate it and then paint it! 8-)

-- Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:28 pm --

Got some more work done!

I was able to get the flaps, and landing gear was fixed, updated, and integrated with the new wing.

Here's a look at the wireframe of the flaps. The 757 has a double-slotted flap which is very similar to the outer two flaps on the 727. I think I still have to add a flap mover for the inboard flaps, but I'm not sure at the moment. It's hard to find pictures. If you guys can find a shot of the flaps from the front inboard of the engine, that would help me a ton!

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Getting some color on the aircraft so I can tell the different parts apart. For the most part, the engine (inside parts) and landing gear won't change colors from what I have here. I was also able to add in a thin strip for the glowing of the engine. I will have to see how well this looks in flight tests in order to determine if I want to keep it or not.

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Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:41 am
by Turbofan
The 757's wing is actually very different from the 727's. Take a look:

757 flaps shot #1

757 flaps shot #2

757 wing with inboard flap canoe

Video of trailing edge flaps going from fully retracted to fully deployed (flap movement starts at roughly 41 seconds into the video). You'll note the inboard flap canoe is situated outside the lower "slot" of the inboard flaps, such that the lower slot "rides" along the edge of the canoe, not on top of it. Also note that there is no inboard aileron on the 757. I tried looking for the view from the front when the flaps are extended/retracted but found a gear movement video from that angle instead. I'll keep looking though. By the way I'm not sure if it's just the way it looks in that Sketchup model perspective but the wings look a bit short to me (maybe it's just me). Hopefully this will help you out some.

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:17 pm
by decaff_42
Thanks for the info! I got the majority of the external animations done :D

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What you see here is ~10,000 faces. Overall, I would say that this has a detail level around Takety's 737s. I am really, really lucky that the original model from Google Sketchup was well-made in the first place.

The last big thing I have to do before I can work on a dat file is to get cockpit made up and reduce it from 30,000 faces... :?

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:36 pm
by Turbofan
^Great! Glad I could help. It's looking good too. If you can, try and reduce the length of that inboard flap track fairing to match that of the two outboard fairings (no big deal if you can't though).

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:23 pm
by Av8Tor
Smexy! Can't wait to start flying this around..

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:50 pm
by jetskit
Oh boy, she's one of my favorites, flown on her lots of times! Be nice to see a high detailed one in YS!

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:54 am
by decaff_42
Here's an update on the 757 cockpit. I've taken many components from the 737 cockpit, but overall, reduced the number of faces to try and streamline this. As this stands, I am ~90% done.

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Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:40 pm
by Av8Tor
Nice work on the cockpit... Expected release date?

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:55 am
by decaff_42
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Here's a WIP shot of the 757-300. I still have to do some work with the windows, but the blanks are just about done! :D

As you may be able to see in this picture, I have added some minor panel lines on the upper surface of the wing, and also added the escape route for the over-wing hatches.

I still have to get them all flying, but I hope it won't take too much longer. I just have to adjust the cockpit SRF file to sit in the right spot for the -300s, and then extend the coarse SRF file.

The different versions:
757-200
757-200w
757-200F
757-300
757-300w

* w denotes the presence of winglets.

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:15 pm
by VNAF ONE
Can we expect the PW engines later on or will there be a way to swap them on?

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:49 pm
by Turbofan
Looking great decaff. Just a little thing since you're working hard on this plane - the nose might need a little modification, in it's current state off of Sketchup it looks a little rounded than it actually is. If you look at this photo you'll see it's a bit more pointed and longer. No biggy but I thought I would point that out. Looking forward to getting this in the air :D.

Re: Decaff's Garage

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:24 pm
by decaff_42
@VNAF, I wasn't originally planning on doing those right out of the gate, similar to the KC-135 A/E and KC-135R packs I did, but As I look through the photos of neat paint schemes, I'm seeing a lot of the PW engines!

My thought is that I would make the PWs and then simply swap them in. The blank aircraft would be engine-less, so that way you would simply import the engine selection you want and you would be good to go. :D

That being said, I'm having a horrible time finding technical drawings or 3-views of the PW engines. I'm going to look through google sketchup, but that might be more work to refurbish one of those than to simple scratch make something that looks about right.

Obligatory model photo: (757-300)
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I have updated the noses of all the aircraft per Turbofan's observation, and also fixed the window issue I mentioned in one of my previous posts.

@Turbofan,
When I went back into the model to look at the nose I found that the upper surface of the nose seemed to have too broad of a shoulder, so I slimmed it down a bunch which smoothed out the shading on the nose to something more reasonable. Thanks for the tip!