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Boeing 727

Post by lorDuckFeet » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:20 pm

Hello, this is my only request this year. The Boeing 727, I know that there are models in Real Pack (Boeing 727 -100 -200).
  I want to implement one of these two models below (Boeing 727-100C and Boeing 727-200) to fly me in my VA.

For'll be grateful interested in helping, here's the picture.

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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:51 pm

I like the early 727s. Lemme see what I can do. Cross sections are the hard part to find.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by decaff_42 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:10 pm

Skyline wrote:I like the early 727s. Lemme see what I can do. Cross sections are the hard part to find.
I tried looking for some cross sections a few weeks ago. Your best bet would probably be insanely detailed RC models. Those forums also mention that some people buy plans, and that might have some options.

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http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airpor ... 27sec2.pdf
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/727family/product.html
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:36 pm

That one link might do fine, thanks. Now that you mention it, I should get my RC Groups account active again and find a 727 there. Lots of free plans.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Turbofan » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:40 pm

Slats and flaps, also note the slightly different flap guide structure.

This video of a then US Air 727-200 flight from CLT to SFO gives you a pretty good idea of how the spoilers and flaps work. I highly recommend watching the full video from start to finish as not only will it give you a good idea on the wing structure (which is also a bit different from the 737), but also has a few things from the past that we don't see today. Like "complimentary dinners" on a domestic flight in economy, for example. ;) And a Mexicana DC 10-15 to boot!

Here's another video showing the leading edge Krueger flaps and camber slats in action. And oh yes, the outboard Krueger flap had a built-in landing light (you can see it being switched on around 2:06 in the video). Pretty cool.

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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:44 pm

Whew! At least I don't do moving parts! But I'll try to get those details down. I'm biting off more than I can chew, I'm sure. Haven't done this for over three years.

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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Turbofan » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:10 pm

Hey Skyline, thanks! Same here, welcome back to the YS community and HQ! I'm sure you'll do a great job on the mesh for this, it's like riding a bicycle right? Once you get it down you can do it anytime? Ok well, maybe not quite that simple but your meshes were very good back in the day on YSTK and YSP and this is also something to look forward to. I've seen your latest work "out of practice", pretty cool.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:50 am

Thanks to Decaf and Turbofan, I've made some progress, but it's still pretty rough.
Again, I need a coauthor to complete the mesh beyond my one or two piece brickshaw.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by decaff_42 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:32 am

Just found these:
http://www.laser-design-services.com/Bo ... 20plan.bmp I don't know if they will help at all...
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Gunny » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:45 am

Ah fond memory's of the scent of balsa wood and bananas(adhesive and dope and not the smoking kind) from that link decaff. :)
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:20 pm

Agreed! I've already pretty much done the fuse, and can at least reference that for my accuracy, but to build a 727 would be great. I've already a few too many RC projects on my table, though.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by decaff_42 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:09 pm

I just found this:
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You can import it directly into blender, but it's way to big for YSF. There are no animations, and upwards of 30000 vertices after duplicates are removed.

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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:14 pm

It's smooth. Very clean. Might be better than what I can come up with, but let me submit a screenie or two. However, the goal is to provide a 727-100 or -200. I suppose it doesn't matter the source as long as the end product is serviceable.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by decaff_42 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:26 am

You might be able to use it as a reference. There is soo much extraneous detail in there, and it would seem to be nearly as much work to clean it up, as to scratch build it.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:05 am

Not sure I need it for reference. Mine may be over-detailed.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by decaff_42 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:15 am

DAMN You work fast! are you going to separate the moving surfaces?
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:36 am

Being unemployed and trying to start a business, I've an excess of time on my hands. I had a base mesh already from YSP2, pretty detailed but out of proportion. You don't want to see the nose.
I may separate the moving parts, but other than cleaning up my mistakes I don't know how much more I want to do. I really prefer private planes and homebuilts.
But seems I'm the only one interested in light aircraft, so they tend to not get done.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by VNAF ONE » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:59 am

That looks pretty good! I'm sure the nose is fixable but I can't wait to see this baby released. By the way I love general aviation aircraft right now considering that's all I see pretty much every day so I'd be a fan of any small aircraft you decide to release.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Turbofan » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:28 am

Just a note to keep in mind, the #2 engine inlet on the -100 was actually an oval.
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Re: Boeing 727

Post by Skyline » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:36 am

Already have that covered but, by all means, keep me on my toes.
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